In this episode of The Kick, Brigid talks with family creation lawyer and former surrogate, Sarah Jefford. Sarah explains the altruistic surrogacy process in Australia, where commercial surrogacy is illegal. She shares her experiences as an IVF mum, egg donor, and surrogate, helping listeners understand surrogacy laws and the roles of surrogates and intended parents.

Sarah discusses the differences between gestational and traditional surrogacy, the need for mandatory legal counseling, and the risks of not following legal processes. She also covers the requirements in Victoria, the birth certificate process, and why surrogates must have children before becoming surrogates. Sarah talks about the challenges of finding surrogates in Australia and the trend of going overseas for surrogacy.

Finally, Sarah delves into the emotional and financial aspects of altruistic surrogacy, explaining how expenses are managed, the importance of agreements, and the surrogate’s bodily autonomy. She shares personal stories about the emotional journey and the relationships formed through surrogacy. 

TOPICS DISCUSSED
[00:39]: Brigid introduces guest Sara Jeffords, a family creation lawyer specializing in surrogacy and donor conception.

[03:07]: Sarah introduces herself and discusses the legal status of surrogacy in Australia and the difference between altruistic and commercial surrogacy.

[04:30]: Sarah clarifies the terms ‘surrogate’ and ‘intended parents’ in the context of surrogacy. 

05:12]: Sarah outlines the criteria for who can pursue surrogacy in Australia and explains the process of obtaining medical qualification for surrogacy.

[07:15]: Discussion on medical documentation, state regulation differences, and initial steps for intended parents.

[09:29]: Sarah differentiates between gestational and traditional surrogacy.

[12:34]: Sarah covers the importance of legal and counseling steps, costs of surrogacy versus adoption, surrogate requirements in Victoria, birth certificate details for both gestational and traditional surrogacy, and how children can access their birth records later.

[18:05]: Sarah shares surrogacy birth statistics in Australia, explains why many pursue surrogacy overseas, and discusses the challenges of finding surrogates in Australia due to legal restrictions.

[17:12]: Sarah discusses surrogacy challenges and considerations -Discussion on surrogacy options for women nearing 40, the best countries for surrogacy, risks of international surrogacy, dual citizenship for surrogacy babies, costs of surrogacy in the US, managing surrogates’ medical expenses, and handling disputes during pregnancy. 

[32:48]: Sarah shares her personal birth experiences and emphasizes the importance of intended parents’ comfort. 

[34:20]: Discussion on the ongoing relationship between the surrogate and the child after birth, and Sarah clarifies that surrogates typically do not feel parental responsibility for the child they carry. 

[38:24]: Advice for those interested in becoming a surrogate, emphasizing research and support networks.

[39:27]: Sarah Jeffords discusses the emotional journey of surrogacy, the bond with intended parents, and the importance of research and joining community groups for support. 

[41:03]: Discussion on the rarity of surrogates wanting to keep the baby and the legal implications. 

[43:01]: Sarah suggests changes to laws and increased awareness to support surrogacy in Australia. 

[44:36]: Sarah expresses hope for improved surrogacy awareness and support during her lifetime. 

LINKS

• Find Sarah’s Website here
• Find Sarah’s Instagram here
• Find Sarah’s Podcast here
• Free Surrogacy handbook here

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